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Old 25-11-2007, 10:54 AM
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Fungi - help, please

Russula sanguinea or R. torulosa, perhaps??

2nd Oct under pines. Any ideas gratefully accepted.



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Old 25-11-2007, 05:49 PM
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I am not sure if it one of the Russula sp. at all . The gills look very different, I have never come across ones like that - they are very attractive. What makes you think that it is Russula - I want to learn as well!
I am getting the Michael Johnson fungi encyclopedia for Christmas (I hope ) so one month today I may be able to answer you but until then I shall bear this one in mind.
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Old 26-11-2007, 11:31 AM
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I don't know, of course. I put it tentatively in that family because of the colour - russula=red, the break of the flesh, chalk-like, no milk.
I've a feeling those wriggly gills are an individual accident.

I hope Father Christmas has been informed of your request. I use 'Champignons de Provence' and a couple of others. Nothing in English so I need latin names. What, for instance, is sickener?

My same query on WAB got kicked out as they said it was not a British species!!
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Old 26-11-2007, 02:04 PM
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I don't know, of course. I put it tentatively in that family because of the colour - russula=red, the break of the flesh, chalk-like, no milk.
I've a feeling those wriggly gills are an individual accident.

I hope Father Christmas has been informed of your request. I use 'Champignons de Provence' and a couple of others. Nothing in English so I need latin names. What, for instance, is sickener?

My same query on WAB got kicked out as they said it was not a British species!!
Sorry about WAB, especially as I suggested it .

The Sickener is another - Russula Sp. - R. emetica. It says in my Collins that it is hot and edible - but I won't be checking out! Found in mainly coniferous forests.
There is also a Beechwood Sickener - Russula mairei , found in groups indeciduous woodland under Beech trees and is regarded as mildly poisoness and causes stomach upsets. It was probably this one I found.

I am feeling rather hopeful about the book - I have been particularly good this year
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Old 26-11-2007, 02:35 PM
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*R. emetica. It says in my Collins that it is hot and edible -*

And mine says poisonous
Any ideas on my new post?
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Old 26-11-2007, 04:17 PM
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*R. emetica. It says in my Collins that it is hot and edible -*

And mine says poisonous
Any ideas on my new post?
OMG!!!you are right - how dangereous could that have been . It says
"inedible". I can't even blame it on a typing error - I just read it wrong!

I am just going to have a look at the other post - I saw it earlier but nothing came to mind - but I will have another look .
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Old 26-11-2007, 05:52 PM
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I am feeling rather hopeful about the book - I have been particularly good this year
Are you sure about that Goosey??
You just nearly killed the whole of WAW and WAB!!!
I'm thinking that Christmas can't come a moment too soon......for all our sakes!!!!!!

Sorry I can't help with the id's Eric but hopefully a fungi expert will browse these pages and let you know for sure.
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Old 28-12-2007, 12:45 PM
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I am getting the Michael Johnson fungi encyclopedia for Christmas (I hope) so one month today I may be able to answer you but until then I shall bear this one in mind.
Well I got my book It's absolutely lovely with lots of info and more than 1000 beautiful photo's - but I feel so thick, I will never get the hang of it
I have spent ages -(not long enough obviously) going through the photos trying to ID some of my own photo's with no luck as yet. It says that ID -ing from photos alone isn't advisable. The age and colour variations makes it impossible at a glance to be able to tell. I do admire the people who have studied and have some understanding of mycology. My plan is to start with family groups and go on from there and will have to ask alot of help and questions.
So I have uploaded a few more unidentifides into the gallery

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Old 30-12-2007, 09:25 AM
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You're are spoiled, Goosey,obviously
Going for grouping in their families is a good way to go, I think. That's how I've started. You get some satisfaction from being able to place them somewhere, with some sort of certainty. Still leaves me with a heap in a folder called 'DontKnow'

Off to look at the new uploads...
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Old 30-12-2007, 09:40 AM
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**So I have uploaded a few more unidentifides into the gallery**
Your new photos:
1. Either a pitted stone or, perhaps, a hydnum - albidum??
(these are all very much perhaps)
2. mycena?? or coprinus???
3. I think (hmmn) I know this one so Trametes versicolor! NO?

Hope this helps, as they say
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Old 30-12-2007, 09:42 AM
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Well upload your unknowns into the fungi gallery and I shall see if I can make head or tale of my book . If not WAW will be the proud owner of the "best unidentified fungi gallery" around .

I was out yesterday and there was a few fungi around, mainly brackets but I haven't had a chance yet to sort through the piccies and "try" to ID them yet, I am off again in a mo' to see if I can spot anything else.
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Old 30-12-2007, 02:02 PM
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**So I have uploaded a few more unidentifides into the gallery**
Your new photos:
1. Either a pitted stone or, perhaps, a hydnum - albidum??
(these are all very much perhaps)
2. mycena?? or coprinus???
3. I think (hmmn) I know this one so Trametes versicolor! NO?

Hope this helps, as they say
Eric
Thanks Eric, it helps! I agree with the Trametes versicolor, Very variable - thats my excuse for not picking up on it .

(3)

I think you are probably right about the mycena, I am almost positive it wasn't a Coprinus, I looked underneath and there was no blackening of the gills. I didn't like to disturb it as it was the only one around.

(2)

I am still not sure about no 1, and will investigate more.

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Old 30-12-2007, 07:42 PM
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I am still not sure about no 1, and will investigate more.

(1)
I think no1 is a Birch Polypore - Piptoporus betulinus, I feel quite confident .
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Old 31-12-2007, 08:15 AM
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Not in my books!
But I can see now it is on birch wood. Progress!!
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Old 31-12-2007, 08:48 AM
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Here are two for identification:
Cysterdema carcharias? Habitat right and most description, although my photo looks pinker...
Very delicate little mushroom.




Lactaire species giving white milk and sticky toad-coloured skin
27th Sept 2005 mixed pine and beech
Think this is Lactarius blennius




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Old 31-12-2007, 09:35 AM
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Lactaire species giving white milk and sticky toad-coloured skin
27th Sept 2005 mixed pine and beech
Think this is Lactarius blennius

DOH! I didn't see this post in the thread and answered in the gallery

I said "I think this is a Lactarius sp. I would hazzard a guess at Lactarius blennius!
It says in my book that it is found on soil under broad leaf trees but favours beech -are they beech nuts I see in the photo?"

But you already half knew and I thought I was being really helpful

Oh well, one more to tick off your list!
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Old 31-12-2007, 10:36 AM
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But you already half knew and I thought I was being really helpful

You are. I'm only guessing. What about the other one?
(I've a lot more to come<gg>)
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Old 31-12-2007, 10:45 AM
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Lactarius volemus ??
or L. aurantiofulvus ??
26thSept mixed birch, oak, pine, Wood




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Old 31-12-2007, 01:39 PM
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[quote=ericrovve;2728]Here are two for identification:
Cysterdema carcharias? Habitat right and most description, although my photo looks pinker...
Very delicate little mushroom.




I would never have linked the photo and Cysterdema carcharias if you hadn't of pointed in that direction.How much pinker is the image? The one in Michael Jordans is almost white?
He says - "Small to medium, fleshy agaric with a whitish tan cap, white gills and coarsly granular stem with ring; solitary, scattered or in small tufted groups, on soil amongst short grass in coniferous woods and on heaths.
Dimension cap 2-6cm dia;stem4-7cm tall x 0.4 - 0.8cm diam.
Cap off white, tinged tan towards the centre;typically slightly umbonate, wavy, granular, sometimes with delicately fringed margin. Flesh white or pallid yellow and thin."
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Old 31-12-2007, 02:00 PM
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(Cysterdema carcharias? )
My book says white to pinkish, with the younger ones pinker in their photo, but not so much as mine. I'm pretty unsure with this one (as usual)
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Old 01-01-2008, 05:05 PM
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Lactarius volemus ??
or L. aurantiofulvus ??
26thSept mixed birch, oak, pine, Wood



It looks like the Lactarius volemus but without the depression in the cap. There again it looks like L. rufus, and other Lactarius - I just don't know.
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