I found these this morning - they couldn't be more different.
1. These were large about 15-20cm and found in a marshy area where I have seen Gunnera by a stream/ditch along the side of a bike lane.
2. Tiny little flowers found on mossy sandy ground, just 2 or 3mm's across, you can compare to the size of the old rabbit poo in the piccie.
Any idea what they are please?