Unidentified moth

[goosey]

I saw quite a few of these yesterday with their lovely reddish/ brown colour. It could be one of the Adelidae, but I haven't come across it yet in my books. They weren't actually active though I saw this during the day, and other Longhorns I have seen have been active during the day.
Small about 1cm in length.

1.

[dmclean3]

Originally Posted by goosey

I saw quite a few of these yesterday with their lovely reddish/ brown colour. It could be one of the Adelidae, but I haven't come across it yet in my books. They weren't actually active though I saw this during the day, and other Longhorns I have seen have been active during the day.
Small about 1cm in length.

The nearest I could get to a likeness on line was Adela violella
Duncan

[goosey]

Originally Posted by dmclean3

The nearest I could get to a likeness on line was Adela violella
Duncan

I wonder if it is a Adela violella?
As far as I can see they are only found (or have been recorded) in the Dutch Provinces of Noord Brabant and Limburg and not here in the province of Noord Holland. So it would be rather exciting if it is one of those and as I said I saw quite a lot.

I wonder if Arp could help here - he is good with knowing places to access recorders and records .

[goosey]

I think this is another Adelidae Sp, it was on the same type of plant (does anyone know what that is - I'd like some in the garden) but much more colourful than the one in the first image.
I don't know if this helps but they were both slightly smaller than Adela reaumurella.

Moth 2.

[paul m]

The plant looks a bit like garlic mustard, Alliaria petiolata (Cruciferae) although it's not a good view of the foliage.
Easy way to check is to rub some between your fingers ....

Originally Posted by goosey

I think this is another Adelidae Sp, it was on the same type of plant (does anyone know what that is - I'd like some in the garden) but much more colourful than the one in the first image.
I don't know if this helps but they were both slightly smaller than Adela reaumurella.

Moth 2.

[goosey]

Originally Posted by paul m

The plant looks a bit like garlic mustard, Alliaria petiolata (Cruciferae) although it's not a good view of the foliage.
Easy way to check is to rub some between your fingers ....

Yes it is Alliaria petiolata . It looks rather like cardamine pratensis.
I have seen so many insects on this plant the last few times I have been out, moths, Orange tip and white butterlies, larvae, bugs and beetles I think it is a must have for my garden. I see though it is considered a pest and invasive, I can understand why, it has carpeted huge areas of the woodland I go to.
Some of the plants I have seen, have already started to produce seed pods so I will be able to collect some seed soon and hopefully I can grow some myself.

[paul m]

For many (not all) insects the crucifers are interchangeable - except for arch-specialists, they don't care whether they're taking pollen, nectar or even foliage from cabbages, Cardamine pratensis, ground cress, mustards, even oilseed rape ( ) .........
I think that garlic mustard (it has at least three other 'common' names in UK) is one of the easiest of weeds to control - crucifers in general are mainly opportunistic annual, they set seed easily and often but are pretty easy to pull up or cut down ..... at least it's not a problem in my garden ....

Originally Posted by goosey

Yes it is Alliaria petiolata . It looks rather like cardamine pratensis.
I have seen so many insects on this plant the last few times I have been out, moths, Orange tip and white butterlies, larvae, bugs and beetles I think it is a must have for my garden. I see though it is considered a pest and invasive, I can understand why, it has carpeted huge areas of the woodland I go to.
Some of the plants I have seen, have already started to produce seed pods so I will be able to collect some seed soon and hopefully I can grow some myself.

[nezara]

This is Adela rufimitrella which feeds on both garlic mustard and lady's smock (C. pratensis). Not seen any yet in London this year!

http://ukmoths.org.uk/show.php?id=3453

Cheers

Tristan

[goosey]

Originally Posted by nezara

This is Adela rufimitrella which feeds on both garlic mustard and lady's smock (C. pratensis). Not seen any yet in London this year!

UKMoths - Adela rufimitrella

Cheers

Tristan

Welcome to the WATW, lovely you have you with us .

Thank you nezara, do you mean Image 1 or 2 or both are Adela rufimitrella?

[nezara]

Originally Posted by goosey

Thank you nezara, do you mean Image 1 or 2 or both are Adela rufimitrella?

The first one - the second does look very colourful - I'm unsure about this one and have no experience of A. violella either