natural causes of global warming

[loki]

What are the really big natural causes of global warming? we hear so mch about the man made ones, but what natural causes of global warming are also responsible?

[paul m]

Originally Posted by loki

What are the really big natural causes of global warming? we hear so mch about the man made ones, but what natural causes of global warming are also responsible?

The longest term one is alteration in the Earth's distance from the Sun - the orbit does change over very long periods and thus could have an effect.

More rapidly, natural release of greenhouse gases such as methane from the rocks.

Cloud cover can be very important - if clouds become more estensive then solar radiation cannot reach the lower atmosphere: so one concern is that melting the ice caps will cause increased cloud which will lead to rapid cooling of the Earth.

Severe volcanic eruptions cast fine powder into the atmosphere and this can have similar or contradictory effects by either repelling radiation *or* by trapping heat! They also release greenhouse gases ...

But the bigest overall effect has been caused by the evolution of plants and animals. The greenhouse effect only came into being by the evolution of green plants which used up lots of carbon dioxide and produced lots of oxygen - thus allowing the evolution of animals. The balance between plants and animals effectively determines the chemical composition of the atmosphere (the main component is nitrogen and unaffacted by this, I think) so as numbers of plants/animals vary, then so does the O2:CO2 ratio. Apart from releasing trapped carbon, humans are affecting the balance by chopping down trees and growing cows!

That's the best I can do

[callum_1]

No-one cares about the natural causes of global warming as we cannot do anything about them. What we can do is reduce the amount of global warming produced by humans. We are polluting the planet way too much by not doing the simple things like recycling. Walking to wrok can make such a difference aswell. You can make a pledge to help the environment now on Live Earth Pledge Tree. Design a leaf as part of the grapidly growing global network where people have agreed to do certain things to help the environment.

[paul m]

Well said - much more clearly put than my ramblings! As you say, the natural causes are, and always have been, present, what we should be concerned about, and what we can do something about are human activities!

Originally Posted by callum_1

No-one cares about the natural causes of global warming as we cannot do anything about them. What we can do is reduce the amount of global warming produced by humans. We are polluting the planet way too much by not doing the simple things like recycling. Walking to wrok can make such a difference aswell. You can make a pledge to help the environment now on Live Earth Pledge Tree. Design a leaf as part of the grapidly growing global network where people have agreed to do certain things to help the environment.

[Neil Jones]

There has been a lot of exaggeration by the American anti-enbvironment lobby
when it comes to natural causes.
This piece from the BBC shows how the tobacco companies have been involved.
They see a link between caring for your environment and caring for your help.
So these people as well as wanting to increase the number of "cancer stick junkies" :-) encourage people to destroy nature as well.

This piece from BBC''s Newsnight program shows how the UK's premier scientific body, The Royal Society is complaining about these scoundrels.

YouTube - Royal Society says to CEI: Cease and desist your lies!